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Power Corruption and Lies: Collector's Edition/Remastered & Expanded | 
| Artist: New Order Label: Rhino Category: Music
New (7) Used (1) from £11.56
Rating: 4 reviews Sales Rank: 7833
Media: Audio CD Discs: 2 Shipping Weight (lbs): 0.3 Dimensions (in): 5.6 x 5 x 0.7
UPC: 825646936984 EAN: 0825646936984 ASIN: B001ECE4DC
Release Date: September 22, 2008
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| Tracks:
Disc 1
| • | Age Of Consent | | • | We All Stand | | • | The Village | | • | 5 8 6 | | • | Your Silent Face | | • | Ultraviolence | | • | Ecstasy | | • | Leave Me Alone |
Disc 2
| • | Blue Monday | | • | The Beach | | • | Confusion | | • | Thieves Like Us | | • | Lonesome Tonight | | • | Murder | | • | Thieves Like Us (Instrumental) | | • | Confusion (Alt Version) |
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Another Pointless New Order Issue September 30, 2008 8 out of 16 found this review helpful
Power, Corruption and Lies is a wonderful New Order album, it is an album I love and is dearly treasured and important to me, and it is a crucial release in the development of the band as they slowly slip from the shadow and reputation of Joy Division and Ian Curtis.
That said PCL's shape, form and sound - as it was designed by the band in 1983 - had a beauty, intergrity and structure. This 'new edition' of NO is flaccid and unnecessary, taking away from the masterpiece that was tightly conceptually executed all those years ago.
Are people not fed up of record company's constantly issuing new versions of great albums? Why should the money men know better than the original musicians? Is not less more really?
Some of this could be excused if the 'extra tracks' were 'extra' or revelatory, but they are not. Just like all the other pointless NO reissues in this programme, the 'extra' tracks on this are not connected to the album and should not be heard in this context. And like all the other issues - none of these 'extra' tracks have not been issued before or are difficult to find.
If you love NO and music you wont buy this, save your money, buy something else by someone new or give it a good cause!
(you've bought all this stuff already) September 25, 2008 8 out of 13 found this review helpful
"Power, Corruption And Lies" saw the band move into their own. Whilst New Order hadn't quite got the hang of writing a brilliant album by this point, there's certainly a fine albums worth of material here. Their insistence on slicing a couple of their best songs off the album and putting them on singles in their own right meant that LP space was occupied by the occasional poor song that really should've stayed on the B Side of a 12" single. "Blue Monday", the depressives version of "I Feel Love", never appeared on a New Order album until five years after it came out. "Power" sees the band demonstrate that, if nothing else, their production ear was and is immaculate, and that they could occupy the space between being a powerfully effective, weird art rock band ("Age Of Consent", "Leave Me Alone") and sad disco ("586") whilst sounding like the same band at the same time. At this point, the band were at the apex of their experimentalism, producing material that sounds like it was written by psychotic robot clones of the Velvet Underground and heartbroken dancers at the same time. As a package, the album is an almost complete artistic statement : including the oblique sleeve art that sees a reinterpretation of a classic artwork, and reducing the need of typography to a colour code (each colour represents a letter, and thus, the titles are listed on the cover, albeit by colour and not by any recognisable language). As an audacious concept, New Order took the desire of design and the concept of music as art beyond what most other musicians could even concieve.
Again the bonus disc is frustratingly incomplete and lacking in cohesion : there's no sign of the 1982 Radio Session that saw prototypes of these songs recorded, no sign of the cassette only "Video 586" soundtrack, no trace of the legendary Christmas Flexidisc which saw the band tackling Christmas Carols, nor the odd occasional live cover versions they would indulge in such as live jams with Section 25, or "When I`m With You". This neglected, experimental side of the band provides a skewed version of their history : let alone the traditional out-takes, demos, and other stuff that we don't know exists but lives in Manchester basements. Everything on here is a A or B-side, and has been out before on various compilation releases and other, equally unsatisfactory box sets. Sure, the music is fantastic, but almost everyone has heard it before. Let's not mention the large number of old concert VHS tapes released and broadcast between 1985 and 1993 that are now deleted that could be quickly and easily transferred to DVD. These reissues fail to satisfy any fan of the group with anything more than the basic knowledge of the band. It's by no means a poor package, but is very much the sound of an open goal in providing a package that would please fans of the band's work. Again, the bonus disc sounds like a hastily assembled filler mixtape with no thought as to how it would sound when listened to as a whole.
New Order - Power Corruption and Lies - Best Album to date September 23, 2008 13 out of 17 found this review helpful
Update :
New Order issues =================================================================== Warner respond to fan complaints about poor quality re-issues 10 October 2008 - Peter Hook has revealed to the BBC that the New Order reissues have received complaints from fans because of the poor quality.
The records were released at the end of September and Hook has blamed the problems on cut backs in the record industry and some missing tapes.
The former Joy Division and New Order bassist explained the problem: "Funnily enough we've actually got a few problems with our fans complaining about the quality of the re-masters of the companion discs. Not the LP's because they're safe and the tapes for those we have.
"A lot of them are lost, between us listening to the collation and between them coming onto the CD, something seems to have gone wrong."
Hook attributed it to problems within the record company, saying: "They don't have half the staff they used to have so everything becomes quite a trial, and I know from doing the Hacienda compilation tape, you get a lot of masters of old songs - they are mastered from the record because nobody can find the tape."
And it seems there was some miscommunication with their record label: "What's been intensely annoying for us is that all these people are complaining because they've bought them in the shops and Warner's chose to release them to the shops before they sent them to the band, so I haven't got one. A masterful piece of planning."
Contact Warner
Warner say that if any of the fans want to contact them about the quality of the New Order re-issues, then they can email this address:
Neworder.d2c@warnermusic.com
New order- power corruption and lies (remaster) ---------------------------------------------------- Well, its here at last...
For me, the pinnacle of their career, and their best album. nothing has quite come close to the level they were at when this album came out..
So lets talk about specifics: ======================================================= 1) The album is not overly loud, or 'over mastered', i'm still comparing all the individual tracks... but so far they look really good
2) The soft parts are clear, with no noise or artifacts that i've noticed..
I'm listening through altec-lansing speakers, and also through headphones
3) The loud parts are not distorted
4) Tracks are complete and not missing parts
The bonus disc: ========================================================== 1) Unfortunately , the bonus disc starts off badly with 'blue monday' still missing the intro beats
2) The sound quality for 'blue monday' is very good however, i'll compare it with the 'substance' version, and also with the '24 hour party people version)
However, note that the mastering for the bonus tracks is on the 'loud' side, and it looks like there might be a little bit of overcropping..
3) The rest of the tracks sound fine also, and are not overly loud, and do not have their levels maxed out...
4) The last track on the disc is listed as 'confusion (alt version)', when in fact it is confusion (instrumental)....
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Overall, the main album is excellent, and definitely worth getting...
The bonus disc is average, but the sound quality is very good.. of course they could have put more tracks on there as it is about 60min+ in total
New Order have never sounded better !!!!!
This is a very good job, and after all these years, to finally get a great copy of it is very special to me.
New Order's breakthrough album. February 23, 2003 3 out of 4 found this review helpful
Power, Corruption & Lies shares a status with Depeche Mode's Construction Time Again- both albums stem from 1983, both were preceded by singles that explored a new electronic terrain (Temptation, Get the Balance Right)& both albums would act as a transition towards the pioneering electronic music both bands are associated with. New Order's debut single Ceremony/In a Lonely Place was a Joy Division outtake, the latter terribly bleak with the cold washes of synthesisers, Martin Hannett's production & the lines "how I wish you were here with me now...someday we will die in your dreams". After this New Order hit a dead end with debut album Movement (1981)- which contains some great material (Dreams Never End, Truth) but is an album that I can't get through as it's too bleak (it took several attempts to get through Dostoyevksy's Notes from the Underground, I still haven't got to the end of film Boy's Don't Cry). At some point, somewhere around Procession/Everything's Gone Green, New Order began to change- Lou Reed being traded in for Giorgio Moroder. Many other UK bands were moving in this electronic direction- notably Cabaret Voltaire, Throbbing Gristle, Human League, Soft Cell, BEF/Heaven 17 & Simple Minds. New Order still sounded vocally a bit like Ian Curtis, but began to extend on the electronic elements of Joy Division: Insight, She's Lost Control 12", As You Said, Isolation... The end result of this was Temptation (sadly not included, the original still sounding vocally like Curtis) & this album. Opening track Age of Consent is like a less manic Disorder, Sumner seeming to discover his eccentric vocal style as it progresses; one of the classic Hook basslines...We all Stand comes from the same place as their Peel Session cover of Turn the Heater On- a definite influence on 3D's vocal style in Massive Attack. The Village is notably more electronic, Stephen Morris trading in his drumkit for synths on several tracks- Sumner was reportedly wearing a white lab-coat & the group were digesting manuals on keyboards (this album was produced by the band- breaking with Martin Hannett). There are many typical New Order elements here- that bass sound & an idea of heavenly pop that would be expanded on with such songs as Perfect Kiss & Thieves Like Us. 5-8-6 is more electronic than its Peel version, famously being the song that lead to the happy mistake that was Blue Monday (sadly not included here); still a great song- Sumner's lyrics attempting to locate themselves: "Can you hear me deep inside?"... Your Silent Face (aka Kwi1- The Kraftwerk One) takes its influence from Trans Europe Express Kraftwerk- the wash of keyboards sounding not unlike OMD circa Organisation/Architecture & Morality. Sumner's use of melodica would recur on 85's Love Vigilantes (& Martin Gore uses one on 83's Depeche single Everything Counts- another similarity). Hook's bassline over the electronicbeat is spinetingling & all those other cliches that people use when they can't put things into words. & everyone loves that pay off "You caught me at a bad time/so why don't you p*** off?"- Ultraviolence takes its title from Manchester novelist Anthony Burgess' A Clockwork Orange, notably harder in the electronic sense- not unlike Suicide's 2nd album (from 1980). Great use of repetition: "all those years gone by...all those years ago"- Ecstasy was rumoured to have not been influenced by 'X' but more LSD, it's a great instrumental that uses vocoder decades before the feted French likes of Air & Daft Punk. It was sometimes known as Only the Lonely for reasons that I am unaware of... The album closes on another favourite, Leave Me Alone. This song was covered in 2000 by Joe Pernice's Chapaquidick Skyline project & sits well next to such songs as As it is When it Was & Lonesome Tonight. It builds around Morris' metronomic drumming & Hook's bassline, before Sumner begins to sing these words that cannot express: "you get these words wrong everytime"- it's as knowingly melancholic as the 'Roses'-cover by Fanin-Latour- Sumner stops singing & the guitars tighten & the song comes to a conclusion. Power, Corruption & Lies is where New Order broke through- advancing from the bleak climes of Joy Division & moving towards the future as represented by such songs as Confusion & The Perfect Kiss. Up there with their best albums of the 80s: Low Life & Technique...
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