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Brotherhood: Collector's Edition/Remastered & Expanded | 
| Artist: New Order Label: Rhino Category: Music
List Price: £17.99 Buy New: £11.68 You Save: £6.31 (35%)
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Rating: 6 reviews Sales Rank: 3321
Media: Audio CD Discs: 2 Shipping Weight (lbs): 0.3 Dimensions (in): 5.6 x 5 x 0.7
UPC: 825646936991 EAN: 0825646936991 ASIN: B001ECE4E6
Release Date: September 29, 2008 Shipping: Eligible for Super Saver Shipping Availability: Usually dispatched within 24 hours
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| Tracks:
Disc 1
| • | Paradise | | • | Weirdo | | • | As It Is When It Was | | • | Broken Promise | | • | Way Of Life | | • | Bizarre Love Triangle | | • | All Day Long | | • | Angel Dust | | • | Every Little Counts | | • | State Of The Nation |
Disc 2
| • | Bizarre Love Triangle | | • | 1963 | | • | True Faith (Shep Pettibone Remix) | | • | Touched By The Hand Of God | | • | Blue Monday '88 | | • | Evil Dust | | • | True Faith - True Dub | | • | Beach Buggy |
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Remaster okay, but bonus disc not so good October 25, 2008 1 out of 1 found this review helpful
Well, the actual album is not that bad - it seems to have been remastered and, thus, improved in sound quality. For those that already know the album, the sound quality on this disc is much better than the original Factory CD, which, to me, makes it a worthwhile purchase...
However...
The bonus CD seems to have been comprised of dodgy vinyl-to-cd rips, most noticeably in Touched By The Hand Of God. It is quite frankly embarassing that such bonus tracks with pops and clicks exist (just try and listen to the first 30 seconds of the track), especially since Touched By The Hand Of God was available on CD single.
So, three stars for the remastered album, but loses 2 stars for the sub-standard bonus disc.
Another Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle: Shame on Rhino and New Order September 30, 2008 4 out of 8 found this review helpful
When Brotherhood first came out I have to admit I felt a sense of disappointment at what I heard on this their fourth Factory album. Whereas the other three releases - including the flawed debut Movement showed a sense of bravery, exploration and experimentation - this release showed an element of retreat and failure to continue exploring new ground and sounds.
All these years on nothing has really changed my view of Brotherhood. This is as near to a conventional rock album with dance overtones as NO would do in the 1980s. There are great moments here, and the remixes of the singles from the album took them further into their dance journey, but their are awful moments on this. Every Little Counts, made me titter the first time I heard it, but Barney's doggrel should have been left on the cutting floor to give them something to release on the extensive reissue programmes to come.
As with every one of these reissues the question why has to be asked? The reissue disc is the usual bloated collection of singles and remixes of the time - which NO fans will have many times over. How many times is a NO fan meant to own 'Bizarre Dub Triangle'?
Record companies dont just have to issue things 'cus people will buy them. Labels like Rhino are meant to have a sense of custodianship and investing in protecting the artists' integrity. There is no sign of that in these issues and NO and Rhino should get a big boot up the arse!
NO must now with a small and what on Factory was a perfectly formed back catalogue be one of the most reissued/exploited bands going. This has fallen to such a low New Order must be on a par with some of the other great rock'n' roll swindles: the Sex Pistols and Virgin obviously, the Rolling Stones and Decca/London, Pink Floyd, the classic Miles Davis releases, the Beach Boys Pet Sounds.
What I find a tragedy is that New Order went from being artists who passionately cared and were involved in every aspect of their releases to this! What a fall and what unnecessary products.
New Order - Brotherhood (2008 remaster) September 30, 2008 4 out of 13 found this review helpful
New Order- Brotherhood (remaster) ------------------------------------------------ brotherhood was a turning point for me, when it came to new order, and not in a good way..
this was the point at which they had lost their way, with the exception of 'way of life', and 'bizarre love triangle'... and maybe even 'angel dust' it just doesn't gel..... the guitars clash, the keyboard tracks falter....
it was then that i knew they were fallible, just as any other group had..
the build up was great, having heard the 'bizarre love triangle' mixes ahead of time, i knew they had the potential to go big, and along with the video, i had no idea how HUGE they would truly become....unfortunately that momentum did not carry over, with no other singles appearing, and they imploded shortly afterwards..
yes, substance came out, and for all we knew, that would be their swan song... with this last studio album to be their unfortunate legacy...
too bad, because they had the potential to continue to be great..
they never did find the chemistry, even 21 years later, they faltered badly, with each remaining album getting worse, and worse...
So lets talk about specifics: for the album ==================================================== 1) i've done a comparison with the tracks from it, compared to the UK release and the Canadian release, and this version holds up pretty well without any major issues..
2) way of life is the standard track to crank up to hear the difference in the loudness at the end, it is still clear, and doesn't clip
I'm listening through altec-lansing speakers, and also through headphones
3) for the softer passages, listen to every little counts, very clear, no distortion, no dropouts...
4) Tracks are complete and not missing parts, no glitches, or stutters.
5) in some countries, the album included 'state of the nation', so that's included here also..
The bonus disc: =================================================== 1) there's good and there's bad news here, on one hand, they actually did a decent job of showing their critical tracks from this era, and also delving into substance era tracks....they threw in some rarities, soundtracks, and a promo mix...very good selection
2) THE SOUND QUALITY IS ATROCIOUS... i've been very lenient on them for their other releases, but this is just ridiculous, clicks, pops, horrible, horrible, where did they come from? didn't anyone check?
3) evil dust is good to have, if you didn't have the funky alternatives compilations, the CDV...
4) true faith -dub, is the very rare eschreamer dub, which is odd, but nice to finally have on cd..
5) where is the 'paradise (remix)'? that would have made a lot more sense.... another missed opportunity.. ===================================================
by the way, another negative, is that the artwork has morphed into some horrible liquid looking piece, that might resemble the original....no thanks..
back to the final points, i don't like this album, i've never really liked it.... however, compared to the rest of their output, its actually better than anything that came out after their first break up and substance..
i'd rate it very low on the scale of must have albums, and possibly just get it for the bonus disc, and if you're a collector
later -1
Brotherhood and a bunch of well known b-sides, why bother? September 25, 2008 4 out of 8 found this review helpful
"Brotherhood" is New Orders fourth album. Aside from the wonderful "Bizarre Love Triangle", it has largely and unfairly written out of history. This release sees the band abandon John Robie's dated production techniques (squelchy bass and histronic female vocalist squealing) in favour of a more conventional, heavier approach. I remember trying to get my brother to listen to one song and telling him it was heavier than Aerosmith. Oh folly of youth!
Nonetheless, side one sees New Order at the heaviest they would be for years. Largely abandoning the synths in favour of a stinging two guitar assault, the material is driven and driving, fuelled by a desperate hopeless resistance, and frantic bass playing. Unlike "Movement", where sparse songs were swamped in production, this sees dense material matched with clear and pristine production. Aside from the brief interlude of "As It Is When It Was", the material on side one would be rarely visited live after release, as it started to morph into one largely homogenus mood piece. Side two is a more rewarding listen : New Order revisiting their more electronic side to produce a suite of luxurious, expansive material of no small beauty. "Bizarre Love Triangle" (despite containing barely any human elements bar bass and vocals), is perhaps their second finest moment - a glorious epic of near perfect melody. Matching the original CD release, though really it should not be here, is "State Of The Nation" at the end. It does not flow with the traditional end of the album ("Every Little Counts"), and jars the listener out of the moment. I wish they'd paid a little attention and removed it from the disc.
The `bonus' disc is again, the usual assortment and hodge podge of 12" mixes from around the same time. It lacks the instrumental version of "Bizarre Dub Triangle" (only available on a US CD single and some 12"s), tracks from compilation albums such as "Theme A La MGM", and the re-recorded material that was on the "Substance" album. In short it's an incomplete mess that misses out some obvious material recorded at the time, adds some fairly useless remixes that are far beyond the era covered by the disc, and sounds like an incomplete and ill thought mixtape. Frankly, the omissions of "Temptation" and "Confusion" which have been completely re-recorded - whilst including the partially overdubbed "Blue Monday" 1988 is baffling and utterly inconsistent. It's, once again, an incomplete disc lacking in thought or care and only worth getting if you don't already have everything on it.
New Order's Most Consistent (but underrated) album March 26, 2001 1 out of 1 found this review helpful
I got this record out of my local library in suburban Merseyside in 1987 and have loved it ever since. Apart from the tacked-on closing track (which shouldn't really be on there, it spoils the funny ending of Every Little Counts), it's all fantastic. It's full of jokes and pathos and has an enigmatic sleeve. What else do you want from New Order? And the laughter in Every Little Counts is as good as Bob Dylan's in 'Please Mrs Henry'. Buy this CD now.
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